Both D3 and Observablehqcom are excellent product. Thanks to the authors! I want to learn D3. However a lot of D3 official examples are coding in Observablehq.com . I don`t want to learn Observable, because I mainly use D3 for off-line academic Chart. Could Mike Bostock give every D3 official exa…

Hello! As we’ve been creating more D3 documentation and examples on observable (and more is coming…), I agree we have to be careful about this issue. First, note that there is a lot of fantastic learning material out there — in very different forms (blocks, codepens, independent web pages, etc) — …

[image] Fil: Maybe a tool, or a tutorial, could help with the necessary changes — things like replacing require by <script> , using async/await explicitely, etc. This sounds like a cool idea! A tool would be awesome, but I’m not sure how it could be done. On the tutorial side, maybe something…

[image] Fil: A separate issue is that the code in observable is fragmented into independent cells, which makes it difficult to copy / paste all in one swoop. Again, it helps to understand when you’re reading it, but gives you more work when you just want to reuse it. I have no good solution for …

observablehq is sure a genius project … but I was 100% fully satisfied with plain javascript. I can not do anything with observable. I am here to do and not to observe. D3.JS is so great, a fantastic tool. But whatever observable is usefool for some few, I am sure most of serious coders will blow a …

I can not do anything with observable […] I am sure most of serious coders will blow a fuzz with this non sense […] step toward the glory useful past I can’t figure out what you are trying to say. If you want to write javascript code down in a text file and run it in your browser, nobody is stop…

Well… I agree with the original poster (this frustration lead me to this thread as the first search result) so to put it other words what is being said through an example… currently the new tutorial of d3.js begins with a feature unique to observable javascript… All I was looking from a “getting st…

I’ve created an account just to express my frustration over this. Why can we not simply download vanilla code examples without any “Observableness” in them? Is that really too much to ask?

[image] muhmud: Why can we not simply download vanilla code examples without any “Observableness” in them? Observable notebooks are like spreadsheets , where cells run automatically whenever you edit or values change. That’s not how conventional (imperative) programming languages work, so sadl…

Thanks for taking the time to provide a detailed reply. This is why I still think this is an issue: choice It may really be the case that Observable is the next big thing but, as it stands, I am not given any alternative when I come here from the d3 site, for example, apart from going elsewhere. I…

I greatly admire the Observable team and all the amazing work being done here, but I couldn’t agree more with @muhmud ! Like many others, I found myself on this thread as a result of a lot of frustration. I agree that Observable may be the way to go, and I do agree with a lot of the advantages being…

I want to learn D3. I don`t want to learn Observable. Is that ok?

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I want to learn D3. I don`t want to learn Observable. Is that ok?

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