# conflicting messages | teams

**URL:** <https://talk.observablehq.com/t/conflicting-messages-teams/3784>\
**Category:** Feedback\
**Created:** [August 27, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://talk.observablehq.com/t/conflicting-messages-teams/3784 "2020-08-27T13:43:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![aaronkyle](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex030/user_avatar/talk.observablehq.com/aaronkyle/32/8106_2.png) [@aaronkyle](https://talk.observablehq.com/u/aaronkyle)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2020, 8:17am UTC](https://talk.observablehq.com/t/conflicting-messages-teams/3784/4 "2020-08-28T08:17:49Z")

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Hi Cobus,

Thanks again for your time, attention, and gentle guidance. To follow-up more on the sources of my confusion with these icons and in the text of the two ‘teams’ notebooks linked above:

I created a team, but didn’t initially add any members. I created notebooks within that team. I later added a member. On adding a member, all my team notebooks were ‘shared’ by default (having the team icon rather than an individual icon). This is why I read the notebook into text as confusing: my initial batch of team notebooks were in fact not ‘private by default’, but instead ‘shared by default’.

After adding a new member, all the icons, etc, work as expected / described. But because this was different than the ‘initialization + first member behavior’, I was totally thrown as to why sharing wan’t working as I expected.

Some of this is me reading too fast and missing details (which is a character flaw that you, probably Anjana, and I am sure many others reading this site and interacting with me have noticed)… but others are sorta obscure. I get your point about the subtle distinction of the _working copy_ of a notebook, but hopefully also my point here is taken that it’s asking a lot of users to be alert to all these subtleties.

There have been a few threads[[1](https://talk.observablehq.com/t/home-screen-wording-cosmetics-thinking-aloud/3773)] recently about the UI having become somewhat awkward and obtuse as the site grows. I’d be happy if your growing team has a few UI/design experts on board to help re-think and improve.

I do appreciate all the care and personal attention that I get on this site and from the Observable team. Thank you!

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